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Dialogue "Tarzan Yamamoto ×Toudoukan Director" 4. 1 in 10,000
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4. "1 in 10,000"
Tarzan Yamamoto: You know... The director was with me.
Director: Oh (laughs) No way it's with Tarzan Yamamoto!? Is it? (laughs)
Tarzan Yamamoto: I played basketball for six years when I was in junior high and high school.
That's why you can't study. I was exercising thoroughly. It's like sleeping in class.
But I wanted to go to college. In terms of family, I don't have the financial situation or status to go to college.
My father and I were both poor. I had four siblings. My brother and three other students didn't go to college.
I wasn't in a position to go to college, but I happened to have good grades and my parents' expectations were high.
So on July 1st, we had an inter-high basketball tournament, and we made it to the finals.
Director: Did you make it to the finals? It was strong, wasn't it?
Tarzan Yamamoto: Luckily, we lost in the final.
I'm glad we lost.
From there, you can finally study. I have to learn from here.
We have to take it back. 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and a half years. I decided to study thoroughly and go to university.
Director: So you made the switch.
Tarzan Yamamoto: And I thought I wouldn't be able to study if I stayed at home. It's a small house and I have a lot of siblings. I was allowed to stay in a boarding house near the school.
Director: Wow. That's right. To study hard.
Tarzan Yamamoto: That's done by my widowed aunt, and she cooks the meals. For half a year.
Study at the boarding house, study in the library. We did it thoroughly.
Tarzan Yamamoto: So I shifted from basketball to studying. And the boarding house was the source of success.
Director: Yes, yes. It's important to create an environment, isn't it?
Tarzan Yamamoto: So, with Ritsumeikan, the director of the museum, I first applied to two universities, a Christian university called Seinan Gakuen in Hakata and a public university called Kitakyushu University in Kokura.
The third is the Ritsumeikan in Kyoto. I was able to take the Ritsumeikan exam in Hiroshima.
I really wanted to go to Waseda, but the tuition was so high that I gave up. 120,000 or something. Because the Ritsumei was half of that, 60,000.
Director: Eh, 60,000 a year was that cheap? Even 120,000 feels cheap.
Tarzan Yamamoto: Director... I'm almost 75 years old. That was 60 years ago.
Director: Oh, yes, I'm sorry. This was at the beginning of the period of rapid economic growth.
Tarzan Yamamoto: It's a long time ago, it's a different kind of thing. No one has been born yet~.
Director: No, no (wry smile) I was in your high school days, so a lot of people were born (laughs).
Tarzan Yamamoto: Very few people are born to read this.
So, I did a lot of research to get through Ritsumeikan, and I found that I was in the Faculty of Letters.
Among them, Chinese literature has the lowest score.
Director: Well, you also developed a strategy
Tarzan Yamamoto: That's right. In order to confirm that it will pass, I will receive a place that is easy to pass.
Well, I was also a lover of Chinese literature. Du Fu liked poetry, so it was just right.
So I took it, and I passed.
At that time, my parents wanted me to go to Kokura or Hakata, which is close to Iwakuni in Yamaguchi Prefecture. Because it's close to home.
But my biggest hope was that it would not cost me money to go to a national university, so I wanted to go to Hiroshima University or Yamaguchi University.
But if I go to Hiroshima or Yamaguchi, I can't get out of my hometown.
That's why I deceived my parents and took it on purpose to fall off.
Director: Wow~, to show my parents that I did what I could do properly (laughs)
Tarzan Yamamoto: I took the national exam, but I tried to fail it. It was certainly tough (in terms of difficulty), but I took it while trying not to pass it in the first place, so I slipped.
So I went to Ritsumeikan, but my parents wanted me to go to Kyushu.
I first persuaded the young homeroom teacher to bring me home, and then the teacher persuaded the parents that it would be more beneficial for the child to go to Kyoto if he thought about his future.
I did it all strategically.
We're together. It's exactly the same as the director.
Director: That's right. I wasn't interested in the Waseda brand either.
I took the university entrance exam as a way to get out of home and go to Tokyo, and as a way to persuade my parents.
Tarzan Yamamoto: That's right. I want to get out of my parents, I want to run away, I want to be free.
It's exactly the same thing when it comes to wanting to get away from home.
That is the first condition for the establishment of an "individual."
For everyone. But in Japan society, parent-child relationships are important.
After all, everyone lives in their hometown, close to their parents.
Ever since I was little, I've thought that as long as I was born into this world, I'm going to live my life.
When I was in high school, which was the most important time, I did what I had to do to make those decisions, which was to deceive my parents, so I did it strategically. So together.
Director: That's right. We were certainly together (laughs).
Tarzan Yamamoto: Together. But I didn't think that the director was such a planned and strategic person.
I was surprised when I heard it for the first time.
I thought he had a quiet personality that obeyed his parents.
Director: Well, as a compromise that I didn't want to make my parents sad, I thought that Waseda would be happy to send me away.
Tarzan Yamamoto: It was also the first time I knew that the director was such a big hit.
I don't see it that way in terms of personality.
Director: It was the first gamble of my life. But it's not like your life is taken, it's just an exam (laughs), so maybe it's not something to talk to such a person.
Tarzan Yamamoto: No, it's important. So if you go to the right or the left, your life will change completely.
Director: Well, if I didn't take the exam and just went on recommendation, Toudoukan would never exist.
Tarzan Yamamoto: I don't have a way. You design your own life. Be yourself as an individual.
In a sense, my hometown and my parents are a hindrance to that. To put it bluntly.
If you live true to that sense of design. If you push forward. That's my life.
Mr. Nagabuchi is right. It's exactly the same as what I think.
Director: But. When I listened to Captain of the ship and was shocked.
It was strange.
I thought that if I put a song like this out into the world, the energy would cause some kind of extraordinary revolution in Japan.
But other than me, the rest of my life has not changed.
Even if you let your friend listen to it on your Walkman, saying, "Anyway, it's amazing, you should listen to it for a while."
"Oh my God, it's already a song, and it's really funny, but is it a gag?" or "I'm just repeating the same thing over and over again, it's been too long and I'm sleepy."
The reaction is so bad that it makes me angry (laughs).
Tarzan Yamamoto: That's why even with the same agitation, even if you incite it, there are people who reach it and people who don't.
There are people who catch and people who don't, and that's because they have different sensibilities and personalities.
Only 1 in 100 people will receive it. Or one in 1,000 or 10,000.
Only "1 in 10,000" can really reach it. I can affirm!
But without calculating it, Nagabuchi continues to say it.
That's the good thing about Nagabuchi. of agitators. The idea is that even one person should be caught.
Director: It only needs to be conveyed to one person. You often say this as well, don't you?
In order to pierce deeply, it must be directed at the individual, not the many.
I feel this all the time even when I play Toudoukan.
Toudoukan is established by the love of Pro Wrestling, the love of martial arts, and the collector path of selected core fans nationwide who are 'one in 10,000'.
Tarzan Yamamoto: In order to really convey something, you have to go deep, vertically, and bashan, and only when you do it thoroughly can you grab (the other person's heart).
It's the same with how you design your store.
▲ March 21, 2018 on the day of the Sugamo relocation opening